OF COURSE THEY WOULD LET ANOTHER WHITE BENCHED CHARACTER BACK BEFORE CASS. IF THEY DECIDE TO BRING HER BACK.
I AM MORE OR LESS HAPPY MISFIT EXIST
BUT IF THEY MAKE MISFIT INTO THE NEXT BATGIRL IN THE FUTURE AND STILL HAVEN’T BROUGHT BACK CASS…..
SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS
Snyder wants Cass in Issue 1 of the reboot: Can’t have her. Snyder wants Cass in an important storyline he’s created just for her (just like Gates of Gotham was originally a Cass-story). DC says no. Harper Row is created to take her place. Fine.
Stephanie Brown s brought back due to fan pressure. Returned as Spoiler, backstory intact (though her history is gone). Understandable. Cass is next right?
JULIA FRIGGIN’ PENNYWORTH is brought back from the 80s Bronze Age even though no one remembered her, no one asked for her and no one said - you know what Alfred needs? A daughter.
And now Misfit? A character that sharply divided fans and who even her creator, Gail Simone, said was not a good fit in the Bat-books because of her having super-powers (FYI to those who don’t know: Misfit/Charlie was DC/Didio’s first choice to take the Batgirl mantle from Cass and was it was only after Gail said no they moved to Steph) is back?
WTF? The most successful (in terms of sales) Asian heroine (or hero for that matter) in terms of sales in the history of DC Comics. One of the few people of color in the entire Bat-Family (and the only one adopted by Bruce Wayne). Also one of the few successful (along with Kyle Rayner and I would argue Connor Hawke) non-Superman characters created by DC in the Xtreme 90s-era to have a lasting fanbase. Where is she?
Nowhere? This despite virtually every single person who has been writing the Bat-books before and after the reboot (except perhaps Peter Tomasi, who was Adam Beechan’s editor and had a hand in Evil!Cass) going on record as wanting to write her AND having stories for her.
Explain someone. Tell how me keeping her out of the comics ISN’T personal for a certain someone *cough*Dan Didio*cough* (which is the only explanation that makes logical sense). I’d really love to hear alternative explanations.
I mean JULIA PENNYWORTH before Cassandra Cain? Really?
In the show Young Justice, there were frequent appearances by the journalist Cat Grant, who would often provide exposition for the audience through her reports on the current situation, such as the Lex Luthor-hosted peace conference between South and North Korea… I mean, South and North Rhelasia. This position was kind of phased out in season two though, with G. Gordon Godfrey’s character providing a more slanted view of the proceedings.
Orginating in the Superman comics, Cat was a journalist at the Daily Planet who befriended Clark despite her antics getting on the nerves of Lois and Perry White. A recovering alcoholic and single mother, she vanished from the comics following her son’s murder by Toyman/a robot that thought he was Toyman, only to come back with breast implants and a more flirtatious attitude.
Lois implies that this change in appearance and behaviour was Cat’s way of dealing with her son’s death, though it seems that explanation has fallen by the way-side after the reboot, where she just seems… kind of conceited and shallow.
There are a lot of things wrong with the DCnU but it did give DC a chance to reboot characters that THEY (for no known reason) had trashed. Exhibit A is Mary Marvel, Exhibit B is Roy Harper (and possibly Jason Todd) and Exhibit C maybe Cat Grant. It’s hard to remember for those who just saw her as a plastic surgery fixated Supergirl-hating mouthpiece for Morgan Edge’s WGBS (aka the guy she and Clark sent to JAIL before Geoff Johns got a hold of her) but she was originally created in the early years post-Crisis as an attractive, sexy professional reporter (and single mother) who was VERY interested in Clark Kent and didn’t like Superman and served as a counterpoint to Lois Lane who at that time was fixated on Superman and she and Clark were not close. Cat was created to show how a normal woman could prefer Clark to Superman. Then her son was killed in a tasteless storyline (that even the Editors barely remembered) and she was hauled out of a limbo to be a superficial antagonist to Supergirl (back in an era when Supergirl was not particularly likable herself). The whole “Cat was changed because of the death of her son” was very much a reaction to fan complaints about what was done to the character for no known reason.
I had to talk about this. I can’t say enough about the writer’s decision to give Lois the truth about Clark’s identity, especially early in the movie. I mean, they pretty much erased the ‘triangle for two’ which has been the mainstay of their ‘first meeting’ for over 75 years. That’s a long time. Lois finds out eventually (usually on her own), but we won’t have this crazy back and forth of ‘when will she find out’ scenario which drove everyone crazy over the past I don’t know how many years that Superman/Lois Lane have been live action.
NO MORE!! Thank you Snyder and Goyer or whoever made that game-changing decision. You deserve all the awards!
And of course the comics books (Didio/Lee) felt the played out “triangle for two” (which even Shuster/Seigel wanted to get rid of) was JUST THE THING the DCnU needed. So much so that when George Perez started hinting that Lois did indeed know Clark was Superman in the new 52 when the reboot began his editors nixed it and dropped all references to it.
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Adam Beechen himself responded to one one of my Tumblr responses about Cass Cain. Makes me feel more than a little bad about it that people are still on him about a “8 year old comic” (and by “people” I mean me).
I tweeted him back that I actually liked some of his Teen Titans Go and JLU work and that most people actually blamed Editorial and not him. It’s just that his “8 year old comic” was the start of 8 years where Cass Cain has been declared “toxic” by DC Editorial for some reason and they have come up time and time again with reasons to slight the character (yes because all 4 male Robins needed their own BOOKS in the reboot but Batman’s adopted daughter who is a WoC in a mostly white world - and the one protege most like him - has still not existed two years into the DCnU). None of which is Beechen’s fault - but if we have to go back to when it all started it all goes back to that “8 year old comic”.
Also, in Beechen’s defense, he has always manned up and taken responsibility for Evil!Cass even though we all know it was an Editorial decision handed to him (even if he decided the Dragon Lady direction). No one at DC Editorial (like Beechen’s editors, Eddie Berganza and Peter Tomasi who still work at DC) has ever taken responsibility or even talked about it. Didio has even jokingly blamed Beechen as the man who “ruined Cass Cain” at conventions (and we all know it was ultimately Didio’s decision). Now that’s shady.
• Chat Post
DC: Wonder Woman is too difficult to find a movie audience for-
Marvel: YO YOU LIKE BLACK WIDOW? HERE SHE IS IN THE NEXT CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE WITH A TON OF SCREENTIME AND MAJOR ASSKICKING SKILLS
DC: We can't allow the lesbians in Batwoman to get married in the comic, sorry.
Marvel: HEY GUESS WHAT WE'RE GONNA FEATURE A GAY WEDDING ON THE COVER OF AN X-MEN ISSUE
DC: The new direction for storytelling needs to be dark, gritty, mature and cynical.
Marvel: DUDE CHECK IT OUT LOKI GOES SPEED DATING IS THAT NOT THE BEST SHIT EVER
DC: After years of rumors, the Superman/Batman movie is finally coming, but with a new actor and suit for Batman and MAYBE a cameo from Wonder Woman.
Marvel: PHASE 2 MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYONE IS IN EVERYONE'S MOVIE AND THERE AIN'T NO STOPPIN US NOW
DC: We can try to add maybe one or two 'people of color' to our lineup...maybe...
Marvel: NEW MS MARVEL THAT'S MUSLIM AMERICAN, BITCHES.
DC: We feel no problem with Batman's vengeful personality being like wet cardboard.
Marvel: NEW LATINA GHOST RIDER WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE WHILE TAKING HIS AWEET LIL BRO FOR ICE CREAM
DC: We can't mention any superhero titles in our movies, that's ridiculous.
Marvel: FUCK YEAH YOU WANT A RACOON VOICED BY BRADLEY COOPER WITH A GIANT GUN? YOU WANT VIN DIESEL PLAYING A TREE? AMY FUCKING POND PLAYING A SEXY BALD SPACE PIRATE? HERE YOU FUCKERS GO
DC: Our fanbase is mostly white males, I'm sure our focus is-
Marvel: NEW SHE HULK LINE WHERE SHE GOES TO COURT THEN SAVES NEW YORK
Shazam vol. 1 by Geoff Johns (writer), Gary Frank (artist), Brad Anderson (colorist), Nick J. Napolitano and Dezi Sienty (letterers)
Shazam has had a very confusing and tortured publishing history. The character was originally conceived as Captain Marvel in 1940 by Fawcett comics. The…
“I realize that in our current world, the idea of an upbeat orphan seems more than a bit antiquated”
As a commentary on the world today and the comics world in particular is particularly sad even if it is true. Johns’ decision to turn Billy Batson into Billy Doucheson just because modern readers might not relate to an orphan who is by his nature, optimistic, funny, heroic and kind removes a large part of the reason the Shazam mythos did not fall by the wayside (even if never got the sales it did in the Golden Age). Billy was chosen by the Wizard BECAUSE he was the best of humanity, after thousands of years, and billions of people who have walked the Earth the Wizard decides it is this particular child (tellingly not Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman or Green Lantern) who is the one person who can harness the power of the Gods without ever being corrupted (a plot point that would figure majorly in the Underworlds Unleashed mini-series where Neron seeks Billy’s soul not Superman’s as everyone else thinks). Giving Billy the origin of Kyle Rayner - basically some magical being randomly says “you’ll do” and he becomes a super-hero is a major disservice to the character.
"Once upon a time… there was a girl. Born to be something unlike the world had ever seen. A dancing hunter. But she didn’t want that. And so, she ran away. Hungry and desperate, she found salvation in the dark flap of wings. She thought she was a bat. But she came to find she wasn’t that either. She was only a runaway girl… named Cain."
She thought she was a bat. But she came to find she wasn’t that either.
I won’t lie. This ending gets worse every time I read it.
To come back around to what I was saying in the first post for this issue, it’s always unfortunate when a series, for whatever reason, is being cut short. It just is a sad set of circumstances, especially in long-form comics like superheroes where, for the most part, they are written with the mindset that this character and their stories must continue forever with no ending.
But when a series does end, and that is such a possibility in the market today that it should at least be in the back of every writer’s mind as they construct their narratives, it has the responsibility of being the last glimpse of our character and their story for the knowable future.
Unless fans really enjoy a particular series or are neurotic to the point I am and go back and reread things ad nauseam, this will be the last impression someone will have of a character and the series as a whole. This will be their final address of the series.
Ideally, you would want the ending of a story to reinforce the beliefs and themes of the character while closing up any remaining threads. You can end it by promising future adventures in the same vain of this one are always a possibility for the readers to dream up on their own. You can make the promise that, even if it’s not with this character, their legacy and beliefs will live on. You can even give a cathartic ending where the final stand for what the book believed in takes everything and more from the character, leading to a sad but inspiring death for what they believed in.
But this? This? This kills everything I love about Cassandra Cain and Batgirl as a series.
And that’s just a cruel image to end the relationship of Cass and Shiva on, too. Just. Agh. I hate everything about this. More and more every time.
Cassandra Cain is Batgirl. No one understands what that even means more than her, and it’s insulting to the series to end on a note so cruel and demeaning of that belief. I wish it had ended almost any way but this.
The only way it makes sense for me is that Anderson Gabrych (who obviously loved the character) was told by Editorial to put Cass in the worst place possible and to have her stop being Batgirl (remember the series was canceled to make for a Batwoman one that NEVER happened and DC didn’t think there should be two Bat-females at the same time so they obviously planning already to make her a villian when this was ending) and Gabrych was trying to do that with at least as much lee-way as possible to keep Cass as a hero.
Or else it just sucks.
I desperately want to believe that Gabrych had as little to do with these decisions as possible, but it’s just… such a mean spirited way to end the series one way or another, y’know? Like, even if he was told exactly that he had to have Cass quit being Batgirl, it just feels like this was the absolute worst way for it to have happened.
I also find it ironic that Cass, a Eurasian woman with a very distinct costume design unlike any of the other Batgirls before or since, was supposedly going to confuse fans too much if she was working in tandem with Kate Kane who was an adult, red-haired, white female hero with a more traditional, free-haired costume. Yet in the New52 we have two and only two (currently) female characters with the bat symbol and they’re considered to be individual and unique from each other with no way they could be confused by the fans — and they’re both white, red-haired females that are nearly the exact same body type and the biggest different in their costumes is color scheme.
Yeah, I don’t… I don’t know. I genuinely like Gabrych’s writing most of the time. I like the first arcs of his run a lot and he wrote an amazing Cass in his time on Detective, but it’s hard for me to see this ending and see anyway that Cass’ character was supposed to be salvageable?
A lot of that is just knowing what was to come, I guess. I don’t know. I’m not big on reading up interviews and things most of the time to get a feel for the environment behind the books. So I have no idea what he’s said, if anything, about his time with the title. I tend to judge stuff based on the outcome. So it’s hard for me to make sense of this with someone I had seen get Cass before. It leaves me just kind of disheartened. :(
I don’t think Gabrych has ever commented like Horrocks has on his “issues” writing Cass. He pretty much dropped off the face of the comics writing world. I just remember that when he WAS writing Cass he used to frequent the DC Message Boards and his love of the character shown through and he was very excited about writing her and liked fan feedback.
As for the way Cass was treated to the way Barbara was treated, yeah it was garbage. Fun facts: Kate Kane is a white redhead because the initial design for a Batwoman character (with a suit and in-costume hairstyle that looks very much like the one Kate rocked when she debuted) was designed for Alex Ross FOR Barbara when DC toyed with the idea of making her Batwoman (this was during the Kingdom Come-era I think). So when they came up with Kate Kane they kept the look, red hair and all (and let the writers create the backstory).
Also when DC made Stephanie Batgirl, sidestepping the only WOC in the inner ranks of the Bat-family and a character (Cass) who was created purposely to diversify the Bat-titles, it led to a situation where for several years Batgirl, Wonder Girl, and Supergirl were ALL blue-eyed blond white teenagers. It was like an Aryan wet dream or something. Which means that they actually made the three most well known DC heroines (after WW) LESS DIVERSE in terms of race and looks than they were even in the 60s-70s (when you had a redheaded Batgirl, blonde Supergirl and brunette Wonder Girl). DC Editorial of course never seemed to realize this even though the unfortunate racial implications were clear to the readership.
Hahaha I was so tense the first time I read this, even knowing how good Cass was at her job. All I can think about is her breaking into that government facility and giving Babs a near heart attack.
Keep in mind, of course, that this is at…
Vis-a-vis Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive, I actually like how the story worked in the Batgirl title itself. I believed in the dynamics of Cass, Bruce and Cain. Of course, if you didn’t read the Batgirl series during this period the whole conclusion of the Bruce Wayne:Murderer/Fugitive saga must have seemed like a giant clusterf!ck. This is especially obvious in the collected editions of the storyline where many of the Batgirl issues are not included.
So what you get is this - Lex Luthor, President of the US, angry that Bruce Wayne foiled his attempts to take over the real estate of Gotham following No Man’s Land hires David Cain (through a third-party) to kill Bruce’s ex, Vesper Fairchild with a gun that Bruce suddenly owned (with the reasoning that Bruce decided he just wanted to buy a gun to see what it felt like to own one - WTF?). Shoddy policework by usually smart supporting players like Crispus, Maggie, Renee end with Bruce in Blackgate with the rest of the prison population (where he is attacked thanks to crooked guards) as is his bodyguard, Sasha Bourdeux, who is actually killed in prison (well she’s not, she’s given plastic surgery and joins Checkmate - again WTF?). Bruce escapes prison (because he’s Batman) and leaves Sasha to rot. He doesn’t care to prove who actually killed Vesper (does THIS sound like Batman - WTF?) and doesn’t want to return to being Bruce Wayne at all. The rest of the Batfamily which has been trying to solve the case is themselves all WTF? at this with Babs questioning whether Bruce did the crime and only Dick and Cass insisting this is something he would never do (Cass barely knows Bruce at this point but has a better grasp of his ideals better than Babs or Tim who are unsure). It is eventually CASS (along with Dick) who uncovers that it was Cass’s father who set Bruce up. There’s a fight, Bruce recovers his senses, Cain - a man who has killed hundreds without getting caught - turns himself in for the crime (seriously - WTF? again) because he wanted Bruce to prove Cass deserved to be with him. Which this storyline DID not do at all because he was all “I’m Batman 24/7 now” and literally batsh!t crazy during most part of it and it was the rest of the Batfamily who solved the case. Bruce’s case is dropped (though Sasha is still supposedly “dead), the police never pay for their incompetence (because they are important supporting characters) and Vesper’s murder is rarely, if ever, brought up again. Even Cain eventually easily gets out of prison.
And if you were not reading Batgirl during this time you would have only a dim idea of who David Cain was, his fixation on his daughter, his hatred of Batman and why the hell he would be stupid to turn himself in for what was otherwise a flawless frame-job.
In many ways DC pre-Didio was better than it is now, but the post-NML early 2000s was not a good time for Batman.