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Cass Cain’s last appearance before the New 52:
Batman: Gates of Gotham #5
Print release date: August 24, 2011

Cass Cain’s first appearance after the New 52:
Futures End: Batgirl #1
Print release date: September 10, 2014

It is 1113 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

Or 3 years, 17 days excluding the end date.

So the way I see it, they owe us 3 years worth of Cassandra Cain as Black Bat comics.

Let us not forget it was almost two years between the time she disappeared in one page in Batgirl #1 (Steph series) and her guest appearance in Red Robin. In between was the year in which Didio had actually publicly said there were “big plans” for the character. 

Those “big plans” being she would cease to exist.

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asleeponabench asked ...
What are your favorite Cassandra Cain quotes or her quotes that you think encapsulate who she is?
... and I answered



This is just an awesome question! I love it : ) Thank you for asking!!!

"Sorry, Shiva. I don’t kill… but I don’t lose either.”
Batgirl (2000-2006) #8

I talk about this quote a lot, I think, but only because I truly believe it deserves it. It is the very quote that changed my relationship with Cassandra and my understanding of her character.

What it encapsulates is a dedication. A personal oath. This is Cass’ declaration of purpose in direct parallel to Bruce’s own declaration of War on Crime. The difference is, Bruce sees the enemy externally. He declares he will make the world better so that a child like he was wouldn’t suffer again. Cass is internally reflecting: the only thing she can control is herself, and that is precisely what she aims to do.

"Yes. He is. But… you’renot. Okay?”Batgirl (2000-2006) #16

This is from a storyline where Cass helps apprehend the very father a young boy asked her to help save.

It reveals an understanding from Cass — as she was in the same position as the boy, though she personally sees herself as having lost her innocence whereas the boy hasn’t yet. But more than that this is a feature of Cassandra’s compassion. Which I will stand forever by the fact that compassion is the single most important attribute to Cass’ character.

"No. Not you. This.
Batgirl (2000-2006) #50

I find that I’m a lot more affectionate toward Horrocks’ run than most — it’s the run of her series that I started out with years ago and was the basis for how I saw Cass for a long time before getting a hold of the back issues and trades for what came before. But I hold that Cass’ statement here — this statement of her loyalty to what Batman stands for rather than the very fallible man himself encapsulates Cass’ independence and her right for the mantle of Batman.

I mean, Cass really is one of the most quotable heroes in comics. I love quotes. I love Cass. I love Cass quotes. There’s so many more I could just go on and on about (“You can change. You can.” "Instinct. That’s… who you are." "Am I volving?""Nobody dies tonight." "Terror. Then… nothing." "I see you, Shiva.” “Don’t worry. I’m… a detective.” “I’m not perfect anymore. Take the words away… and give me back my skills.” “Don’t… talk to me like that. Like I’m stupid.” — this is a dangerous door you’ve opened), but unfortunately (or fortunately, really) I don’t have time to get all of them

These three are probably my favorite most consistently, though.

And. Y’know. “You bet your sweet patootie!”

Other favorite quotes include what others say about Cass:

Bruce: “Batgirl is a phenomenon” - Robin 88

Alfred: “You have achieved more in your few short years as Batgirl than many costumed heroes manage in a lifetime. You have saved countless lives, brought justice to the wicked and helped the city regain hope during the most difficult time in its history.” - Batgirl 43

Bronze Tiger: “We made you a warrior. You made yourself a hero” - Batgirl 67

Lady Shiva: “Heroes are forever…the rest of us are just part of the story.” - Batgirl 71

I think the Bronze Tiger personifies who Cass is better than anything else. She was born to be a weapon, a warrior, but she made HERSELF a hero. If I was rebooting Cass and giving her a title thats the tag line I would use to sell her to an audience.


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Warm-up sketch - was doing another warm up sketch and it somehow turned into Cass…. so I went with it. And it made me think about her and David Cain in Batman: Bruce Wayne Fugitive. I love the scene where she’s talking to him in the prison. "You kill again… I kill you"

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Batgirl (2000-2006) Annual #1

"Exactly. When even the police ignore their… our plight, what is there to do? Who is there for them?”

The implication here, given Cass’ smile in the last panel, is that Aruna will take up the cause for herself. Which, would have been great — Indian superheroes, or Asian heroes in general — are something I really think needs to be seen. After all, India alone has 17.5%of the world population. Off the top of my head, I can only think of 2 DC heroes who are Indian.

But… as far as I’ve ever been able to find out, Aruna only appears in this issue. Which is a shame.

Had people cared, Aruna could have been a very interesting callback character to bring into Cass’ later world trek, or even to Batman Incorporated rather than shoving Cass — a Eurasian woman who only knew English — to Hong Kong for Batman Inc. in a shockingly racist display by the DC execs.

But, we didn’t get that. Unfortunately :T

The Batman of Hong Kong thing was something completely pulled out of Morrison’s behind and was straight-up racist (though since its Morrison we can’t say that). Lady Shiva was from Detroit, Cain was from parts unknown but as heck wasn’t HK, Cass must have been raised somewhere in the Western Hemisphere since she found herself in Gotham all on her own with no language skills or identity papers. She had NO connection to Hong Kong other than her biological mother being of Chinese ancestry. That’s it. That’s the only justification. 

Even Shiva being of Chinese descent is kind of here and there, what with Gail Simone writing her as being from… Thailand, I think it was? Vietnam maybe? It’s been a while since I read the story, where Dinah picked up Sin.

I think that the vague justification was that the place where Cass ran away from her father after he made her kill someone was Macau, which is geographically close to Hong Kong (the opposite side of the Pearl River Delta), and considering she was shown growing up on the streets in South East Asia within her own series… the arguement could be made that she was at least familiar with Hong Kong and the surrounding area due to her travels, even if she didn’t know the language.

Still a stupid, vaguely racist decision (however well intentioned it might have been, Morrison apparently was a fan of Cass and wanted to her to get a defined role in Batman Inc after being left out in the cold for so long, and being the representative of Bruce in the entirety of South East Asia is certainly pretty impressive) though, as I have a feeling that it just justified WHY Cass wasn’t being used by some of the DC staff at the time.

Like, “Of Cass couldn’t be involved in all these crossovers, she’s got Macau, Hong Kong and the entire Golden Triangle to worry about!”.

I’m dubious about Morrison being a fan of Cass. He basically ran the direction of the Batman titles for almost a decade and wrote the flagship title itself and bragged about all his continuity porn in his run and how often did Cass as Batgirl have a speaking role in any of this Batman run? Zero. Literally she appeared a handful of times over years and years, had no interaction with Bruce whatsoever (nor did she when she was introduced as Black Bat - in fact Cass never shared a scene with Bruce to this day since Adam Beechan’s mini-series) and never spoke or given anything to do. Alfred, Barbara, Dick, Tim, even Jason (who Morrison devoted two arcs too) but Cass? Nada. And she was still officially Batgirl for the majority of his run.

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